April 19, 2024

Episode 29 - Rachel Biddle, Emily Grese and Holli Young of Step-Up, Providing hope and healing in HIV services

Episode 29 - Rachel Biddle, Emily Grese and Holli Young of Step-Up, Providing hope and healing in HIV services

This week we have 3 incredible guests from Step-Up, a comprehensive HIV care and resource organization:  Rachel Biddle, Emily Grese and Holli Young, who share the impactful ways they're changing lives. From innovative HIV case management to providing a sturdy bridge for those exiting incarceration, their stories are a testament to human resilience and the power of compassionate service.

As we navigate the hurdles of life together, understanding how to holistically support those with HIV becomes imperative. Our guests unravel the intricacies of providing credit improvement, housing assistance, and job preparation, while also confronting the stigma and trauma surrounding an HIV diagnosis. Their dedication is clear as they explain the critical role of comprehensive case management in enhancing the quality of life for the Indianapolis community.

Finally, we delve into the importance of sustainable funding and community partnerships that underpin Step Up's mission. The episode closes with personal journeys shaped by service and the influence of AmeriCorps, illustrating how hands-on experience in social work can ignite a lifelong passion for helping others. Join us to gain a deeper appreciation for the tireless efforts of Rachel, Holli, and Emily, and the transformative work they're doing every day.

Website: https://stepupin.org/

 

Chapters

00:04 - Step Up's Services for HIV Re-Entry

12:36 - Supporting HIV-positive Individuals Holistically

25:12 - Step Up Funding and Partnerships

37:22 - AmeriCorps Experience and Impact

44:03 - Supporting Sustainability in Social Work

Transcript
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One of the things that makes us really unique when it does come to our HIV case management services, is our housing program.

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I'm always looking for different organizations to partner with for other supportive services that we don't offer, so that we have a connection for our clients.

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And then you have some people that come in devastated and they don't know which way to look.

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You know they're stunned by this information.

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A lot of times there's a lot of trauma and stigma still with HIV.

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I had a client once describe Step Up as unconditional love, which I loved conditional love, which I loved.

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Welcome to Homeward Indie, a bi-weekly conversation where we meet the people working to end homelessness in Indianapolis and hear their stories.

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I'm Elliott Zanz.

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And I'm Steve Barnhart.

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Hello listeners, I'm in the facilities of Step Up and what I thought might be good to do, since we have actually three guests here with us today, is give them an opportunity to introduce themselves.

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So you know who's talking, etc.

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So we can go whatever order you'd like.

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Hi, my name is Rachel Biddle.

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I have been with Step Up almost three years and I'm the Connections Plus Program Manager.

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I am Emily Gracie.

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I am the Housing Team Lead here at Step Up and I've been here for about seven years.

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My name is Holly Young.

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I am a Non-Medical Case Manager here at Step Up.

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I've been here about two years and actually started in the field about 10 years ago.

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Okay, very good.

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Well, we'll want to get to hear each of your personal stories with this as time goes along here, but let's just start with telling our listeners what Step Up is, what you do, what you're all about.

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So any one of you can go and others can jump in.

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So Step Up was founded about a little over 20 years ago by two people who were deeply impacted by HIV personally, and from that they saw a need in the community for more HIV services to prevent others from going through what they had experienced and their family had experienced from the trauma, the stigma relating to HIV.

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And from then Step Up started with providing testing and HIV services and has since then expanded in the last 20 years to go much beyond that, including reentry services, hiv case management, housing, also working with people to prevent HIV and really making sure that we're doing that from a holistic point of meeting needs.

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One of the things I really like about Step Up is that you know we see a need and we work to meet it, regardless of you know if somebody is receiving services from us.

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If somebody's, you know we just see a need in the population and how can we help meet it.

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Sounds like that's exactly what's happened when you said from where you started 20 years ago to what you are today.

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In general, though, your clients would be who?

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Well, that kind of ranges now, I mean because we've implemented so many different programs.

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Um, we typically used to just work with people living with hiv and now we've kind of expanded into working with the entire community.

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You know, we have people from re-entry, we do prevention services, so we kind of hit the whole community and, of course, if there was anybody that just needed help, we would do what we had to do, whether it was here or with our community partners, to make sure they got what they needed when you say re-entry, you're talking about from being incarcerated is that correct?

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yes, people who are coming back into the community from incarceration.

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Okay, yeah, and one of our biggest programs with re-entry has recently been going into the facilities and providing health education, training peers within the facilities to then provide health education across the different facilities in the state.

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And so from then taking then people when they get released and using that same model of having the peers then go to our community partners and provide that same health education to some of our partnerships that we have within the community as well.

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So you're bigger than just Indianapolis, it sounds like.

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In that programming?

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Yes, we're in.

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I think is it nine or ten, I think ten facilities.

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All across the state of Indiana.

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Yes, they're trying to get into as many facilities as they can.

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Do you limit yourself to Indiana, or do you see yourself someday being even broader than that?

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I mean, right now we're just in Indiana.

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I'm not sure what it would look like to expand that, but right now, I think you know, so far the goal has just been to expand.

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We have a smaller, you know, geographical grant area per se and we've been just trying to expand on that to reach the full spectrum of Indiana instead of just central Indiana and its surroundings and it just depends on the programs and the program guidelines within.

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Like some of our HIV services, it's very located within Indianapolis and the surrounding counties, but within the re-entry, and particularly with the in-pep program, which is our peers within the facilities and stuff like that, that's more statewide.

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We've been talking about that particular element of your service.

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Is that kind of what you've been emphasizing lately, or not?

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I think it's just really groundbreaking, and so that's where it's always just fun to discuss, because it's something that you know nobody's doing or seeing or things like that, especially with you know, how do we really provide services in a holistic way where people are getting their needs met?

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What does that service look like You've mentioned?

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You actually go into the facilities.

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What does it look like in terms of what your clients are receiving?

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When they go into the facilities they usually do like a 40-hour workshop.

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So the PEP team will go in and they'll have different discussions, different topics for the day, but it's all public health information, community health information, from hand washing to safe sex to harm reduction.

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The PEP team covers all of those topics and educates the peers.

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For them to take that information and educate their peers.

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I see.

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So it's kind of like a train, the trainer type model.

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Okay, and how do those trainers get identified?

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Are they volunteer, are they selected somehow?

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so here, theep team.

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I think we're really lucky to have the PEP team that we have, because the individuals have experience with incarceration and they have been peer educators in the PEP program before the in-PEP program.

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So Step Up has hired them to do the education when they go into facilities, um, so I think having them had gone through that process before gives them a good idea and it allows them to connect with the peers even even more, um, when they're doing the programs okay well, in those class, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

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Those classes aren't necessarily going to leave anyone out, like everyone is going to be welcome to attend those classes.

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But then within those classes and workshops they have people that I think interview maybe, or they just work with people to determine who's going to basically take the baton and keep it going and they work with them to make who's going to basically take the baton and keep it going, and they work with them to make sure that that education continues while they can't be in the facility.

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So those peer educators are just selected, I think.

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They have an interview process.

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I believe, similar to an employment setting where they would interview peers within the facility to hire them to do the 40-hour workshop and then to be trained to provide the 40 or the workshops.

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I don't think it's 40 hours that they do, but the I don't know how long the workshops are that they as they're spreading the word yes, yeah, and then at the yeah.

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At the end of the workshops, they have a graduation for the peers who have gone through the program, which is one of the coolest things I've ever been to.

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I think, like the energy that those teams and those people and those peers that they bring to the graduation is.

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It's incredible, it is.

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Tell me a little more about that.

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What's been your experience with that?

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Well.

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It leads I Well.

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It gives them confidence.

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It gives them something to not only educate each other within the facility, but then it gives them a chance to see that there are things that they can do outside of the facility.

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It's a piece of encouragement as well as education.

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It gives them opportunities to possibly get certifications and things when they're you know, once they're released and ready to work in the community.

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It gives them resources to connect with people in the community so they're not coming out alone.

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Yeah, and I think it's done a lot for our program development across the board, outside of just this program, where it's like we've been able to build up so many different community partnerships through having this program.

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Where it's like we're finding landlords to work with, we're finding employers, we're finding certifications that you know, some of our clients, who maybe have a history of incarceration but we're not in this program, still would be eligible to complete, to move on towards some sort of future employment goal or things like that as well where it's really pushing a lot of our programs forward I love it.

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What caught my ear there was that it's it's not just about knowledge by any means.

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It's about providing worth, about providing purpose.

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Motivation, hope, maybe, would be a term that I would throw in there yeah what other services are you providing that we need to tell our listeners a little more about I mean we do case management services for people who are living with HIV and then in that is also part of our housing program, which basically I mean Emily can discuss that in depth a little bit more, but she, you know we work together to make sure that our clients, whether you know, hiv positive or re-entry or regardless of what their status is, you know, make sure that they have resources and access to housing just like everybody else.

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Yeah.

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So I think one of the things that makes us really unique when it does come to our HIV case management services is our housing program, because each of our clients who, if they are identified living with HIV and are accessing case management services, not only are they working with a case manager, but they're also then assigned a housing case manager to work alongside with their case manager, and so at that point then they have both people that they can kind of rely on, because their case manager can help with things like the insurance, navigation, the medications, all of that type of stuff, and the housing case manager can really help with, like housing sustainability plans, goals working towards, you know, whatever a housing goal that that individual may have in order to meet their self-sustainability.

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When you say housing case management, am I correct that it's not that you have actual facility?

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No.

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Right.

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You're helping them find the facility that's right for them.

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Yeah, and make it sustainable, you know because we have a variety of people.

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You know HIV impacts a variety of individuals in a variety of situations and so you know, sometimes it's helping somebody figure out that homeownership is a great opportunity for them.

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How can they, you know, really work on their credit to get to that point?

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Sometimes it might be something as simple as somebody has a Section 8 voucher but just can't find a landlord.

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Who do I know, who I can call, who you can talk to get you in with.

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Sometimes it's something where somebody has stable housing but they really aren't happy in their employment.

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How can I help you with that?

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How can we look at your resume, practice a job interview, things like that that really help you feel confident going up to the next level these individuals?

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how do they end up finding you or you finding them?

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so it'd be a combination, I think, of things.

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A word of mouth is a big way that we get a lot of new referrals.

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We also get referrals for we have our testing here and so they're out in the community with community partners.

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They have in-office testing as well, as we have like people can schedule online or come in for like walk-ins, and then you know, if somebody were to test reactive for HIV at that time, we would link them into services, whether with us or if they wanted to go somewhere else, wherever they would like to be into services, whether with us, or if they wanted to go somewhere else, wherever they would like to be.

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When you say reactive with hiv, what does that mean?

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that's um, it means when.

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So when we test people we have an insti test and if it comes back, reactive it it means that there were HIV antibodies that were found in the blood.

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So it would be like a positive test.

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And if we do have that positive test we do a confirmatory test as well and then if that is also reactive or positive that's when we referred to HIV client services and they kind of help they do help the client go from there with finding a provider medical care insurance.

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All those things that you just talked about, which sounds pretty holistic.

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Alluded to the fact that you find that you have clients that are in all different types of social economic situations employment, you name it but can you give us a little more, any of you guys description of kind of the demographics of your clients Is that?

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even possible.

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I mean, we have clients ranging from you know 18 to I mean.

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I don't know, 70s.

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Okay, so all ages but adults, all adults.

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Is that correct For now?

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yes, Okay, for now.

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Well, I mean I could see us eventually maybe branching into that.

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But yeah, I mean we do stick to adults right now.

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So, all ages, someone who is seeking testing or has already somehow tested positive reactive someplace else, I assume.

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Positive reactive someplace else, I assume.

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What are other ways that you would describe your and maybe not demographics as much as what are they thinking?

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What kind of state of mind are they as they come to you?

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anything, every single one is different, every single, you know we have some people who are very aware of hiv very knowledgeable about hiv coming in.

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And then we have some people who are very aware of HIV, very knowledgeable about HIV coming in.

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And then we have some people who maybe, you know, have no information and, you know, never thought that HIV was something that could impact them.

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Or, you know, maybe it's.

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You know, a variety of different situations.

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A lot of times there's a lot of trauma and stigma still with HIV that we're having to address just on a daily basis.

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Is that a pretty large percentage of those clients you serve that in some form or fashion they feel a stigma still related to that.

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I think this year we've started to see our clients reporting that that's gone down.

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But in prior years that's been a really high reported reporting that that's gone down, but in prior years that's been a really high reported.

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I assume that your case management then helps people work through that Is that correct?

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Yeah, regardless of what the situation is, you might have somebody come in that's accepting of the fact that they've just tested positive for HIV, maybe expected it coming, and kind of know what that looks like, just from maybe their you know social group or just having that knowledge.

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And then you have some people that come in devastated and they don't know which way to look.

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You know they're stunned by this information.

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It wasn't necessarily something that they planned for.

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So you know they're not always aware of what.

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You know what a quality of life would look like once diagnosed with HIV.

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So a lot of people still do stigmatize that.

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It's still that death sentence or that hard life.

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And you know we try to make an impact where you know they feel that that doesn't have to be how it is, you know they feel that that doesn't have to be how it is, you know, and if that comes with education, if it comes with just support or just seeing them and being with them through different trials of life and a lot of that is homelessness or loss of employment or you know big things that they're not always so confident in handling, you know, and you just have to, um, to work with them in those situations and support them in whatever it is.

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Everybody is different, you know okay.

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Did I understand that correctly that what you're saying is that obviously life in general is challenging, no matter what for everybody, for some much more than others.

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But when you add on the layer of hiv positive, that kind of magnifies.

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I would say it can.

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I think it depends.

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Yeah, it depends.

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You know, I think that sometimes it's actually very easy.

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You know somebody, can you know, get enrolled with their provider, go see them and just live their life as normal.

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And then other people have you know barriers that they have to get through to even get to that provider.

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You know problems with transportation, or we're homeless so we can't even take a shower before we go, or you know just different things.

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And so every one of those scenarios is different.

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And we just want to make sure, like, regardless of what somebody is going through, that we're able to support them, be there for them and be that connection, that person that they can contact.

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And, you know, no judgment, We'll listen, we'll hear and we'll support Correct.

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For the sake of our listeners and me, if I were to show up at your offices and I tested positive for HIV I was just assigned a case manager what would be the theme of the messages that you would be giving me?

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What would that conversation look like?

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That's such a tough conversation to have sometimes.

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You know, sometimes, sometimes people are prepared for it in their minds when they come in, so they're ready to jump into case management, and sometimes they're not even ready to speak to anyone.

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They, you know they get that result and we can be there to assure them that.

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You know, this is not necessarily the worst thing, you know.

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It, of course, is going to change your life to a degree, but it doesn't have to mean that the quality of your life changes, and we're here to support you.

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You're not alone in this, you know, and anything that we can do to educate them, support them, make them feel just a little bit more comfortable, even little by little.

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You know, sometimes it's a long process to get there, but some people are ready to accept it immediately and some people just aren't.

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You know, some people won't allow you to immediately jump into case management, so we follow up with them later and check in, you know, and see how we can help and just wait for them to be ready as a client.

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My question to you is what does this mean about my health?

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I mean, specifically, of course you're going to want to talk to, you know, your infectious disease doctor and make sure that you're engaging in care and any way to take care of yourself.

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I mean, you know that's something that we're going to encourage.

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You want to make sure that nutritionally you're covered.

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You know we want to make sure that you have transportation to get to those doctor's appointments and those sort of things.

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Well, and we know things like, for example, like stable housing is crucial, those sort of things Well, and we?

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know things like, for example, like stable housing is crucial.

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So we're looking at you know, do you have stable housing, do you have a roof over your head?

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Because we know that there's research out there that shows that you know, one of the best ways for medication adherence is stable, supportive housing.

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And so how do we help you know, ensure that that's something that's not a barrier?

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How do we make it where you?

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You know, we know that we're able to meet whatever the needs are for you to be able to meet whatever your medical needs are sometimes just people, just knowing that they have someone in their corner makes a big difference

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you know, you kind of have to just get to know those, the individuals, as they come and you know if they do have barriers that they need help with to make sure that they can maintain that life, then we'll help with those things.

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I had a client once describe Step Up as unconditional love, which I love.

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I love that Because it's just kind of how we are, where it's like, whatever's going on, we're here for you, we'll support you, we'll listen, you know.

00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.834
Really catching that from you guys, that as you described your services and how you go about providing those services and who your clients are that it's really not so much about the services.

00:22:26.834 --> 00:22:28.420
It's about your support for the individuals that are your clients, absolutely.

00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:33.794
That sounds like that's your culture, if that's the right it is, and we have a great culture here your clients, absolutely, that sounds like that's your culture, if that's the right it is, and we have a great culture here.

00:22:33.794 --> 00:22:42.309
You know we try to support anything and everything that comes through our door where did that culture come from and how does it keep sustained?

00:22:43.752 --> 00:22:48.226
I think you know one of that big pieces was our founder, paula French.

00:22:48.226 --> 00:23:08.972
She was the person that you know anybody and everybody could go to and she just was so passionate and so caring and so willing to put in the work and that just has really driven, I think, all of us that are here to continue that work.

00:23:10.901 --> 00:23:14.230
And when you say she was here, she's not here any longer.

00:23:16.701 --> 00:23:26.369
She recently passed away and we actually just yeah, and yeah, her funeral was yesterday.

00:23:27.441 --> 00:23:28.566
Oh, I'm so sorry.

00:23:29.902 --> 00:23:32.329
We fully intend to keep her legacy moving forward.

00:23:32.329 --> 00:23:34.126
We have a great solid staff here.

00:23:34.126 --> 00:23:51.672
We're like a family, and I think that helps us in our work too, because it helps us communicate with each other, it helps us stay on the same page, it helps us work with our partners the way that we need to, and it's a really positive culture that we have in this office.

00:23:52.020 --> 00:23:55.770
How many people are in the office, or whether in the office.

00:23:55.770 --> 00:23:58.047
I don't know if you have some that aren't.

00:23:58.749 --> 00:23:59.211
A couple.

00:23:59.211 --> 00:24:04.368
I might say we're probably about 30, 32 maybe, oh, maybe I don't know.

00:24:04.387 --> 00:24:06.932
Okay, we're really bad at growing, Okay yeah.

00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:11.931
Like, like, like, let me test you.

00:24:11.931 --> 00:24:16.467
I know where you guys haven't been here a long time, but just in general, I'm curious what?

00:24:16.467 --> 00:24:19.498
What was has that growth been in terms of number of people?

00:24:19.597 --> 00:24:22.767
well, it started with two, so yeah, and that was 20 years ago.

00:24:22.866 --> 00:24:27.021
Basement even, right, yeah they they, you know, and then they built um.

00:24:27.123 --> 00:24:37.615
It really is something that was birthed and now lives on its own with its own energy and culture, but obviously with those roots.

00:24:38.056 --> 00:24:45.279
Yes, when I started in 2013, I think we had maybe seven people in office, including the founders.

00:24:45.801 --> 00:25:10.412
They were both in the office still at that time, and I think there were maybe, I don't know, maybe 10 max still at that time and I think there were maybe, I don't know, maybe 10 max, you know, and now to see that this has grown to you know, I don't know close to in florida, 40 employees at least and with you know, all of the different programs we have and even, like within each of our umbrellas, having different programs under those big programs just keeps growing, so you haven't been afraid of growth.

00:25:10.612 --> 00:25:11.554
No, not at all.

00:25:12.074 --> 00:25:14.766
Okay, how are you funded?

00:25:14.766 --> 00:25:17.990
Are you charging any of your clients any fees?

00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.169
Clients are never charged a fee for any services here.

00:25:22.539 --> 00:25:24.507
And each program is funded by different sources.

00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:27.185
Different sources, different grants.

00:25:27.185 --> 00:25:44.932
We've been really lucky to have really strong managers who are going out there and just finding grants and applying and putting our name out there and pushing to get the funding to support the different programs that we see a need for and I assume also some donations.

00:25:45.031 --> 00:25:46.134
Is that correct or not?

00:25:46.134 --> 00:25:50.729
What other things do you want to tell our listeners about?

00:25:50.729 --> 00:25:51.369
Step Up?

00:25:55.883 --> 00:25:57.471
What have we missed so far?

00:25:57.471 --> 00:26:02.383
So, like I said, I am the Connections Plus Program Manager.

00:26:02.383 --> 00:26:06.769
Connections was created probably about two years ago, right when I first started.

00:26:06.769 --> 00:26:20.393
I was getting out of AmeriCorps, I was here, this was my service site and I loved it and I was doing outreach and testing, as well as working with Emily.

00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.912
I will say Rachel was the sweetest, bubbliest AmeriCorps.

00:26:25.912 --> 00:26:28.913
But she came in and she was like I don't want to do housing.

00:26:29.857 --> 00:26:30.240
Oh right.

00:26:30.381 --> 00:26:34.544
And I always laugh when she gets to this part because it's like look at where you are now.

00:26:34.884 --> 00:27:01.691
Yeah, yeah, I can see this coming um so I was doing outreach and working with Emily and like some case managers, so I got to kind of see things from when people first walk into testing to if they are reactive, like referring them to a case manager and then having them start like here as a client with case management.

00:27:02.372 --> 00:27:21.771
But when I was in americorps I was like, well, what about the, the other people like, who aren't testing positive or they aren't reactive for HIV or hepatitis C, but they're telling us they're experiencing homelessness, they're telling us they're having food insecurities, they don't have transportation, they don't have health insurance.

00:27:21.771 --> 00:27:30.713
We're just telling them you know like, oh, like, we tested you, you're negative, you're good to go.

00:27:30.713 --> 00:27:35.281
So that's kind of how Connections started.

00:27:35.281 --> 00:27:37.686
It was really looking at the social determinants of health and having an understanding of those.

00:27:37.686 --> 00:28:03.280
Like emily was saying, if you don't have income, how are you going to support yourself with housing, if you aren't housed, how are you going to keep taking medication if you don't have access to hygiene, showers, washing your clothes, like how you know, and all those social determinants of health really determine someone's outcome of their health.

00:28:03.280 --> 00:28:08.284
And with connections, um, we started.

00:28:09.023 --> 00:28:11.224
I started as a community navigator.

00:28:11.224 --> 00:28:49.126
So any clients we had who were negative but still had risk factors like homelessness, injection, drug use, sex work, any of those like the transportation, food insecurity they could be referred to me and I could start working with them to get them connected to resources in the community, so places like Horizon House, if they haven't heard or been to Horizon House before, or helping them get enrolled on insurance and finding food pantries in their area that they can walk to if they don't have access to transportation.

00:28:49.126 --> 00:29:05.080
So that's kind of how that got started and through that we really focus on nine zip codes around within Indianapolis and they're zip codes that have a high incidence of HIV.

00:29:05.080 --> 00:29:22.634
So we try to make community partners within those zip codes and build a relationship with them to be able to offer our services to them or just to tell them about who we are and what we offer and encourage them.

00:29:22.634 --> 00:29:29.920
If they have anybody who's interested in getting tested, have them come to Step Up, so it moves both directions.

00:29:30.161 --> 00:29:37.086
You might be referring someone to them, but they might be referring someone absolutely yeah, so that's where its connection.

00:29:37.086 --> 00:29:39.653
It's not a one-way street.

00:29:40.401 --> 00:29:48.208
So that's, and then I kind of started getting more into housing With a lot of Emily support.

00:29:48.208 --> 00:30:02.765
Housing is really challenging at some sometimes and, and I think, like with my program, I don't have the same funding as HIV client services.

00:30:02.765 --> 00:30:16.605
It's much smaller Like we have to be very strategic about it and that's why it is so important that we build relationships with community partners, because we need people, need other supportive services as well.

00:30:16.890 --> 00:30:17.089
Yes.

00:30:17.490 --> 00:30:58.375
So, thankfully also, emily started having housing meetings on Tuesdays here at Step Up for staff and we kind of started collaborating and bringing in some of our community partners to talk to the staff about their services so they can refer their clients to them or we can come together and as a staff we can talk about a situation we might be struggling with and how to work through that, or advice, or like, hey, do you know someone who works here and can you give me their contact info so I can contact them for my client.

00:30:58.375 --> 00:31:02.864
And I think those meetings have been really, really good.

00:31:02.864 --> 00:31:07.241
We've had CHIP Horizon House Neighborhood Christian Legal Services.

00:31:07.241 --> 00:31:10.991
Today we're having a mortgage broker come and talk to our staff Just what

00:31:11.011 --> 00:31:11.595
does it look like to?

00:31:11.615 --> 00:31:23.039
secure a mortgage Because housing is so important within prevention as well, and it goes back to what we were just talking about.

00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:34.465
If you're working with someone who's experiencing homelessness, their first thought, their first priority is not going to be getting, you know, enrolled on insurance, necessarily.

00:31:34.465 --> 00:31:35.172
Like are you?

00:31:35.172 --> 00:31:36.838
They're hungry, they could be cold.

00:31:36.838 --> 00:31:38.717
They don't have any shelter, you know.

00:31:38.930 --> 00:31:39.778
Exactly, they're hungry, they could be cold.

00:31:39.798 --> 00:31:40.846
They, they don't have any shelter, you know exactly.

00:31:40.846 --> 00:31:47.844
So what can we do to to work with you where you're at, and how can we get you sustainable into where you want to be?

00:31:50.134 --> 00:32:01.138
you have this mindset of we're gonna meet the client where they are but at the same time you're recognizing you can't do it all.

00:32:01.921 --> 00:32:02.181
Yes.

00:32:02.823 --> 00:32:03.844
And you're partnering.

00:32:04.089 --> 00:32:04.773
That's a big thing.

00:32:04.773 --> 00:32:12.422
That we do across all of our programs is really working with clients to set goals, regardless of if they're in HIV services, if they're in connections, if they're in reentry.

00:32:12.422 --> 00:32:14.096
It's what do you want to work on?

00:32:14.096 --> 00:32:18.121
What do you see that you know you think would make your situation better?

00:32:18.121 --> 00:32:21.239
What needs do you have that we can help you meet?

00:32:21.239 --> 00:32:25.320
But it's really focused on what do you, as the client, want to work on?

00:32:25.320 --> 00:32:27.999
Not what do I see that I think you should work on?

00:32:28.810 --> 00:32:34.202
And if you can't provide that, you help them find someone who can provide that.

00:32:35.009 --> 00:32:38.130
You know I will sit there and research, I will call, I will.

00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:41.612
You know, whatever you know, I will sit there and research, I will call I will you know whatever In just a minute.

00:32:41.652 --> 00:32:46.335
I want to hear each of your personal stories as to how you got here.

00:32:46.335 --> 00:32:59.982
But before we do that, our audience on this podcast, those listening, probably fall into two big categories.

00:32:59.982 --> 00:33:17.450
One would be those who are already working within the continuum of care and, of course, the other would be those who are not but probably have an interest in those in our community that are experiencing homelessness, etc.

00:33:17.450 --> 00:33:24.730
Going to the first group homelessness, etc.

00:33:24.730 --> 00:33:27.537
Going to the first group what's the message that you guys would want to share with those who are in the continuum of care?

00:33:27.537 --> 00:33:27.797
What?

00:33:27.797 --> 00:33:29.681
What should they know about?

00:33:29.681 --> 00:33:32.513
Step up and who you are?

00:33:33.415 --> 00:33:39.736
I think one thing is that there's partnership opportunities here where it's like if we're not partnering with you, we'd love love to partner with you.

00:33:39.736 --> 00:33:43.671
We'd love to look at opportunities to see how can we work together to achieve this goal.

00:33:44.594 --> 00:33:46.700
Yeah, I completely agree with that.

00:33:46.700 --> 00:34:04.638
I think we're always I'm always looking for different organizations to partner with for other supportive services that we don't offer, so then we have a connection for our clients, but we do have partnership opportunities are there particular needs that you think of that and we?

00:34:04.679 --> 00:34:17.070
we would love to find a partner that could provide x, y or z I mean something that comes to mind is, you know, like food donations as well as clothing.

00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:39.295
But clothing, like you know we need, people need like belts, people need things for job interviews, like nice shirts and, um, like a good pair of socks, you know, um, dress, shoes and those like the food, and then clothes or clothing items are some of the first things that really come to my mind.

00:34:39.454 --> 00:34:39.735
Okay.

00:34:45.610 --> 00:34:47.958
Food is definitely a big one, whether you know they're clients or just coming in for testing.

00:34:47.958 --> 00:34:50.670
There are a lot of people that don't have regular access to meals, you know.

00:34:51.911 --> 00:34:56.577
And you would like to be able to tell those clients.

00:34:56.577 --> 00:35:01.224
Go here or call this number to help.

00:35:01.925 --> 00:35:02.385
And we do.

00:35:02.385 --> 00:35:06.077
And you know, if there's something that we don't know, we will go out of our way to figure it out.

00:35:06.077 --> 00:35:09.184
You know, regardless of what that channel looks like for us.

00:35:09.710 --> 00:35:14.538
Yeah it's always great to be able to tell somebody who's struggling with whatever situation or whatever they have going on is.

00:35:14.538 --> 00:35:17.402
I know this person, I trust this person and I know they can help you.

00:35:17.684 --> 00:35:21.090
That's huge person.

00:35:21.090 --> 00:35:22.552
I trust this person and I know they can help you.

00:35:22.552 --> 00:35:22.793
That's huge.

00:35:22.793 --> 00:35:26.460
What about that second group, the ones that are not currently working within the continuum of care?

00:35:26.460 --> 00:35:34.599
If they're inspired by what you're doing, what are ways they might be able to assist with your organization?

00:35:36.422 --> 00:35:38.673
spread the word more than anything.

00:35:38.673 --> 00:35:39.896
Spread the word, you know.

00:35:39.896 --> 00:35:49.228
I mean we like to be in as many community partnerships as we can, you know, just to have more options to provide people.

00:35:49.347 --> 00:36:06.692
So anybody that would want to be involved we would never turn away by any means and there's always opportunities to you know, making sure people know their HIV status, making sure people know their hep C status, making sure you know people know the risks, people know you know what is the reason that you have to get tested, why does it matter?

00:36:07.255 --> 00:36:42.019
all of those things are so important, regardless of what you have going on or what your situation is, and that's important, I think and something that I want to include is we can't change the community without involving the community either so if somebody who's not in the field but but they want to be part of you know, step up or something like, and you have this idea where you want step up to be there, you want step up information somewhere, like come to our office, get some supplies or brochures, or invite one of us out there and there and um.

00:36:42.179 --> 00:37:01.405
we'd love to be there and spread the word, but I think just remembering um to support community agencies is really important too, especially um ones with the variety of programs um, because they do a lot of like.

00:37:01.405 --> 00:37:09.110
We have incredible people that work here and they do a lot for the clients, and community partnerships make case management much smoother.

00:37:09.411 --> 00:37:11.237
So, yes, it definitely makes a difference.

00:37:12.099 --> 00:37:12.460
Excellent.

00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:17.400
I want to hear how you got here.

00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.452
Rachel.

00:37:19.452 --> 00:37:21.500
You mentioned AmeriCorps.

00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:28.989
Tell our listeners a little bit about what AmeriCorps is and how that played a part in you arriving here.

00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:33.963
Yeah, so I was in college.

00:37:33.963 --> 00:37:37.840
I was about to finish college and I really didn't know what direction I wanted to go.

00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.983
I was in public health, but I still didn't know what direction I wanted to go.

00:37:39.983 --> 00:37:42.172
I was in public health, but I still didn't know what I wanted to do.

00:37:42.172 --> 00:38:09.445
I took Dr Carrie Foote's AIDS and Society course and I fell in love with it and the work that came along with it that we learned about, and she would have different people from the community working at places like Step Up or Damien Center, bellflower, like all the different places come in and talk to the class about what services they offer, what they do and kind of what their mission is about.

00:38:09.445 --> 00:38:27.791
So we had somebody from the Health Foundation of Greater Indianapolis, ebony Barney, come talk to our class and she started talking about AmeriCorps and I was like, wow, this would be such a cool experience, especially since I don't really know what I want to do.

00:38:27.791 --> 00:38:31.880
This seems like the next best step for me.

00:38:32.159 --> 00:39:05.998
And it was and I signed up and I did it and I was placed here for at step up for my service site and I really took advantage of the opportunities that were offered to us, because while you are working, you're also gaining work life experience as well, and I think the education that comes from work experience is so important and it's what really helped me like grow into my role as an employee here and in AmeriCorps.

00:39:05.998 --> 00:39:17.753
You have the opportunity to meet and network with a lot of people, which, like we just talked about, is super important in this field and that opened the door for those opportunities and those networks.

00:39:17.753 --> 00:39:24.003
So, americorps, I will always put a good word in for it, always support it.

00:39:24.710 --> 00:39:34.969
And basically they provide your funding, your salary in a sense for that year to be working with an organization such as Step Up.

00:39:35.050 --> 00:39:44.548
Yes, you get a very modest stipend and yeah, it's like your job, your work.

00:39:44.548 --> 00:39:45.692
And it's.

00:39:45.692 --> 00:39:52.981
You're not because something about AmeriCorps is you're not a volunteer, you're a member, like you're an AmeriCorps member.

00:39:52.981 --> 00:39:54.329
Yes, okay, yeah.

00:39:54.771 --> 00:40:19.518
What I like about AmeriCorps, too, that is really neat from the agency perspective, is that we are, when we're applying for a member, we're applying for something that we don't have funded, for a role, for something that we see a need for, but there's just not, like that position, funding to cover that, and so how can we be strategic and find a way to meet a need with this member that it's also building up them for whatever future goal or aspiration they have?

00:40:19.980 --> 00:40:20.771
Yeah, and it was.

00:40:20.771 --> 00:40:33.434
I really enjoyed being an AmeriCorps member because, even though I worked here with Emily and like some of the case managers and testing and outreach, I was interested in the reentry program.

00:40:33.434 --> 00:40:41.300
So I got to attend some reentry events or meetings and, as a you know, typical employee, you don't.

00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:48.043
As a you know, typical employee, you don't always get to do that or you don't have the time to do that whatever it may be, um, but they're also.

00:40:48.230 --> 00:41:16.998
They're so supportive and letting you explore opportunities, and if there is something, some kind of experience that you're looking for, though, they're so willing to talk to you about it and see how they can get you there and obviously in that your case, it led to full-time employment with a new service yes, I feel very grateful for my experience and the people who have been here along the way.

00:41:18.418 --> 00:41:18.798
Holly.

00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:32.833
Okay, so I was that lost college student, didn't really know what I wanted to do Another lost college student you know, yeah, you know, many years ago, and my uncle I was very close with my uncle.

00:41:32.853 --> 00:41:39.777
He was a long-term survivor of AIDS before he passed away and I started seeing as he got older.

00:41:39.777 --> 00:41:57.219
You know, there were just a lot of things that I kind of took over for him, you know helping him get to doctor's appointments, making sure, you know, his meds are filled, and he lived through a time where you were taking 30 medications a day to stay alive, you know, and I saw the stigma that came with that.

00:41:57.219 --> 00:42:02.083
I saw the struggles that he had and the greatness that came from another.

00:42:02.083 --> 00:42:09.443
You know, he worked with the Damien Center and had a case manager there that would just, you know, just help him.

00:42:09.443 --> 00:42:16.775
And you know, these times of need where otherwise he would have crumbled, you know, and at some point it was just like social work.

00:42:16.775 --> 00:42:18.099
You know, that's it right there.

00:42:18.771 --> 00:42:19.576
That's it for me.

00:42:19.576 --> 00:42:33.094
You know, that's what I want to do, and, um, and then when it came up on my internships, you know, I uh happened to see it on on the you know list of things that you know were available still, and I was like what is that?

00:42:33.094 --> 00:42:33.875
What is step up?

00:42:33.875 --> 00:42:36.702
I've never heard of, you know, I've never heard of this before.

00:42:36.702 --> 00:42:43.039
And when I saw you know that it was an aid service organization, I was like let me give it a shot.

00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:47.833
And I just felt great, like it's such a fulfilling service.

00:42:48.333 --> 00:42:55.811
You know, when, when you're working in this field, it's just something that it's just unexplainable.

00:42:55.811 --> 00:43:02.565
You don't, you have to, you know, you have to experience your own fulfillment in your own way, and it just did it for me.

00:43:02.565 --> 00:43:06.152
So, um, I, you know, did, I worked through my internships.

00:43:06.152 --> 00:43:11.175
I did um case management, uh, for half of it, and then the other half I did outreach and testing.

00:43:11.175 --> 00:43:25.025
Um, I continued on after those to do testing at Eskenazi in the emergency department, and then kind of took a break for a bit and then just realized that I still wasn't in my other positions, wasn't fulfilled the same way, and so I decided to come back and.

00:43:25.144 --> 00:43:29.858
I'm so happy I made that choice thank you, emily yeah.

00:43:29.918 --> 00:43:37.117
So I had just finished my bachelor's degree in social work and was waiting to start my master's degree.

00:43:37.117 --> 00:43:44.097
Um, and I was living with my parents at the time and was like I just need to get out of their house during the day before I lose my mind.

00:43:44.097 --> 00:43:46.021
Love my parents but need it out.

00:43:46.021 --> 00:43:55.751
And so I knew somebody who was here working here and I was like, hey, do you have some shadowing or internship opportunities I could do for like the next six months until my master's degree program starts?

00:43:55.751 --> 00:43:58.842
And he was like sure, come on in for an interview.

00:43:58.842 --> 00:44:03.335
So I came in and interviewed and they were like, okay, we'll give this a shot, you can do this.

00:44:03.817 --> 00:44:12.992
And started here working under Abby Carr, who's now the reentry program manager, but helping her do Ryan White recertifications and housing applications.

00:44:12.992 --> 00:44:31.302
And as we were doing that, I started to see where, you know, the same people were coming back in needing housing assistance again and again and really wanting to figure out like, how do we really set up programs and how do we really help people get to a point of sustainability where they're meeting their goals?

00:44:31.302 --> 00:44:32.773
They're not needing us for assistance.

00:44:32.773 --> 00:44:33.275
You're?

00:44:33.275 --> 00:44:37.579
You know, you know the resources, you know the people you can call you know all of those those things.

00:44:37.579 --> 00:44:45.356
How is it that we are really supportive and, you know, able to really move forward?

00:44:46.177 --> 00:45:00.021
And so, um, eventually, a position during my I ended up signing up to do my MSW practicum here and a position then became available and um just had mentioned to Abby, I was, oh, I think I'm going to apply.

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Well, shortly after that, like probably within like two hours, I was pulled in the conference room and they're like would you like this position?

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And so things don't happen that way anymore, but I've been here ever since then.

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Excellent.

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Well, rachel Holly and Emily, thank you so much for first of all, being willing to be guests on Homeward Indie and hopefully this is helpful in spreading the word.

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But mostly, thank you so much for the work you do in serving the individuals that you serve thank you, thank you.